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Rob Lee (Twitter)
There is ample evidence of the poor employment of tanks or tank units without sufficient infantry and other support that led to heavy losses. 13/
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@RALee85:
Better quality video of the attack on the Russian armored column in Brovary. 7/ https://t.co/gkcfgplMeX
There is ample evidence of the poor employment of tanks or tank units without sufficient infantry and other support that led to heavy losses. 13/
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@RALee85:
Better quality video of the attack on the Russian armored column in Brovary. 7/ https://t.co/gkcfgplMeX
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Necro Mancer (Twitter)
#Ивановка Херсонская обл. (предположительно), "Стугна" жжот, вероятно, некоторое время назад https://yangx.top/Tsaplienko/9280 #RussianUkrainianWar #архив
#Ивановка Херсонская обл. (предположительно), "Стугна" жжот, вероятно, некоторое время назад https://yangx.top/Tsaplienko/9280 #RussianUkrainianWar #архив
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Rob Lee (Twitter)
Russian units had little warning they were going to war, which is critical for logistics planning and ensuring proper maintenance. Many of Russia's tank losses happened in the 1st 2 weeks because of maintenance and logistics issues. Others got stuck. 14/
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@RALee85:
Abandoned Russian T-80U tanks some stuck in the mud in Sumy Oblast.
https://t.co/cbdJLNnALT https://t.co/W3QF40X5mj
Russian units had little warning they were going to war, which is critical for logistics planning and ensuring proper maintenance. Many of Russia's tank losses happened in the 1st 2 weeks because of maintenance and logistics issues. Others got stuck. 14/
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@RALee85:
Abandoned Russian T-80U tanks some stuck in the mud in Sumy Oblast.
https://t.co/cbdJLNnALT https://t.co/W3QF40X5mj
Rob Lee (Twitter)
There was a particular issue with T-80 tanks because they didn't have enough gasoline for their gas turbine engines. Notably, Russia has adapted its TTPs and is fighting more competently in the Donbas and we are seeing fewer tank losses as a result. 15/
There was a particular issue with T-80 tanks because they didn't have enough gasoline for their gas turbine engines. Notably, Russia has adapted its TTPs and is fighting more competently in the Donbas and we are seeing fewer tank losses as a result. 15/
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Rob Lee (Twitter)
Video of a Ukrainian Stugna-P ATGM strike on a Russian armored vehicle.
https://yangx.top/horevica/3650
Video of a Ukrainian Stugna-P ATGM strike on a Russian armored vehicle.
https://yangx.top/horevica/3650
Rob Lee (Twitter)
What is the alternative to tanks? Tanks are still important in urban warfare, counterattacks, exploiting success, and for supporting infantry assaulting well-defended and entrenched positions, which is what Russia is doing in the Donbas now with some success. 16/
What is the alternative to tanks? Tanks are still important in urban warfare, counterattacks, exploiting success, and for supporting infantry assaulting well-defended and entrenched positions, which is what Russia is doing in the Donbas now with some success. 16/
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Status-6 (Twitter)
Rosgvardia's "Kadyrovtsy" at the main office of the 3rd SBU Directorate in the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblast, located on Pivovarova Street in Severodonetsk.
Rosgvardia's "Kadyrovtsy" at the main office of the 3rd SBU Directorate in the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblast, located on Pivovarova Street in Severodonetsk.
The Lookout (Twitter)
Good thread by @RALee85 here.
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@RALee85:
Thread: I completely disagree with this article's conclusions, and I think it stems from a misinterpretation of the data. Tanks, fighters, and ships are not "being pushed into obsolescence" and we are mostly seeing incremental changes in warfare.
https://t.co/s42bflS2XI https://t.co/EuQIOWgmDE
Good thread by @RALee85 here.
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@RALee85:
Thread: I completely disagree with this article's conclusions, and I think it stems from a misinterpretation of the data. Tanks, fighters, and ships are not "being pushed into obsolescence" and we are mostly seeing incremental changes in warfare.
https://t.co/s42bflS2XI https://t.co/EuQIOWgmDE
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Rob Lee (Twitter)
Indeed, both Russia and Ukraine still clearly see the benefit of tanks and armor. Ukraine is asking for more armor, and they are using tanks in their counterattacks. They are likely using tanks to reinforce their defenses in the Donbas as well. 17/
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@RALee85:
Video of Ukrainian forces during the offensive in Kharkiv Oblast. For those saying tanks are obsolete, Ukraine is using them in their offensives.
https://t.co/SWHS9VaCjg https://t.co/aA81A0RvHL
Indeed, both Russia and Ukraine still clearly see the benefit of tanks and armor. Ukraine is asking for more armor, and they are using tanks in their counterattacks. They are likely using tanks to reinforce their defenses in the Donbas as well. 17/
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@RALee85:
Video of Ukrainian forces during the offensive in Kharkiv Oblast. For those saying tanks are obsolete, Ukraine is using them in their offensives.
https://t.co/SWHS9VaCjg https://t.co/aA81A0RvHL
Rob Lee (Twitter)
People declared tanks were obsolete after the Nagorno-Karabakh war as well. But that was a misinterpretation of the data. Armenia lost a lot of tanks, but, imo, that showed that the side that loses its tanks will likely lose a ground war instead of showing they were obsolete. 18/
People declared tanks were obsolete after the Nagorno-Karabakh war as well. But that was a misinterpretation of the data. Armenia lost a lot of tanks, but, imo, that showed that the side that loses its tanks will likely lose a ground war instead of showing they were obsolete. 18/
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Rob Lee (Twitter)
Tanks weren't Armenia's problem, its lack of air defenses to counter TB2 UCAVs was. People blamed the wrong system. Once Armenia lost those tanks or couldn't use them, Azerbaijan had success because Armenia couldn't reinforce its defenses with armor. 19/
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@RALee85:
Two more Armenian T-72 tanks struck by TB2 UCAVs. One of the advantages of TB2 UCAVs with MAM-L munitions compared to artillery and other forms of fire support is that they can easily destroy armor in cover. 217/
https://t.co/VfYGcPA4fm https://t.co/6dRIAa0yxI
Tanks weren't Armenia's problem, its lack of air defenses to counter TB2 UCAVs was. People blamed the wrong system. Once Armenia lost those tanks or couldn't use them, Azerbaijan had success because Armenia couldn't reinforce its defenses with armor. 19/
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@RALee85:
Two more Armenian T-72 tanks struck by TB2 UCAVs. One of the advantages of TB2 UCAVs with MAM-L munitions compared to artillery and other forms of fire support is that they can easily destroy armor in cover. 217/
https://t.co/VfYGcPA4fm https://t.co/6dRIAa0yxI
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Rob Lee (Twitter)
Indeed, tanks were critical to Azerbaijan's success in penetrating Armenian defenses. It is no coincidence that Azerbaijan made its breakthrough in the south where the terrain was flatter and Azerbaijan could maximize its advantage in armor. 20/
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@RALee85:
TB2 video from the Azerbaijani MoD of what they claim are Armenian SOF retreating in the face of Azerbaijani tanks and BMP-2. Looks like they launched two ATGMs at the beginning of the video. 1194/
https://t.co/321tM0XpFY https://t.co/i1uPrYwdpA
Indeed, tanks were critical to Azerbaijan's success in penetrating Armenian defenses. It is no coincidence that Azerbaijan made its breakthrough in the south where the terrain was flatter and Azerbaijan could maximize its advantage in armor. 20/
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@RALee85:
TB2 video from the Azerbaijani MoD of what they claim are Armenian SOF retreating in the face of Azerbaijani tanks and BMP-2. Looks like they launched two ATGMs at the beginning of the video. 1194/
https://t.co/321tM0XpFY https://t.co/i1uPrYwdpA
Rob Lee (Twitter)
No, this war does not show that tanks are obsolete, it shows that they need to be employed with proper support in a combined arms operation, which is part of US/NATO doctrine. It is true that Russia invaded with too many tanks, but tanks were still important in OIF 1. 21/
No, this war does not show that tanks are obsolete, it shows that they need to be employed with proper support in a combined arms operation, which is part of US/NATO doctrine. It is true that Russia invaded with too many tanks, but tanks were still important in OIF 1. 21/
Rob Lee (Twitter)
The Moskva was essentially an un-modernized 40+ year-old ship. It had very old air defenses (possibly non-functional), it didn't have modern CIWS comparable to US Navy's, it had conscript sailors, and it should have had newer ships providing close-range air defense for it. 22/
The Moskva was essentially an un-modernized 40+ year-old ship. It had very old air defenses (possibly non-functional), it didn't have modern CIWS comparable to US Navy's, it had conscript sailors, and it should have had newer ships providing close-range air defense for it. 22/
Rob Lee (Twitter)
The loss of the Moskva was a blunder by the Russian Navy's leadership through complacency to the threat from Ukrainian anti-ship missiles. Such a large ship with old air defenses should not have been so close to the Ukrainian coast. It doesn't mean US Navy ships are obsolete. 23/
The loss of the Moskva was a blunder by the Russian Navy's leadership through complacency to the threat from Ukrainian anti-ship missiles. Such a large ship with old air defenses should not have been so close to the Ukrainian coast. It doesn't mean US Navy ships are obsolete. 23/
Dan (Twitter)
61. Also interesting in film in twt 60 - 🇺🇦58 Motorized Bde soldiers say they already recovered 11 🇷🇺BMPs out of a total of 18 or 19 captured at river. This tallies with my 1st count of 19 abandoned AFVs (mainly BMP, unknown + 2x Shturm-S).🇷🇺company only had 63 men h/t @vmanulik.
61. Also interesting in film in twt 60 - 🇺🇦58 Motorized Bde soldiers say they already recovered 11 🇷🇺BMPs out of a total of 18 or 19 captured at river. This tallies with my 1st count of 19 abandoned AFVs (mainly BMP, unknown + 2x Shturm-S).🇷🇺company only had 63 men h/t @vmanulik.
Rob Lee (Twitter)
I think this part about aviation vs air defenses is wrong too. Ukraine has mostly Soviet-era S-300PT/PS, Buk-M1, and Osa air defenses (which are playing a bigger role and influencing Russian air ops more than than MANPADS). These aren't cheap systems but they are old. 24/
I think this part about aviation vs air defenses is wrong too. Ukraine has mostly Soviet-era S-300PT/PS, Buk-M1, and Osa air defenses (which are playing a bigger role and influencing Russian air ops more than than MANPADS). These aren't cheap systems but they are old. 24/